I was trying to find a link to Professor Francis Boyle’s infamous emails to U of I President White after White shook hands with Hitler…I mean Chief Illiniwek. One of the first things I came upon in my search was the articles of impeachment Boyle drafted. I thought it might be an interesting lesson for the impeach Bush crowd to see what this diseased mind can come up with. I provide the link, but here is a sample:
and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has attempted to impose a police state and a military dictatorship upon the people and Republic of the United States of America by means of "a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations" against the Constitution since September 11, 2001. This subversive conduct includes but is not limited to trying to suspend the constitutional Writ of Habeas Corpus; ramming the totalitarian U.S.A. Patriot Act through Congress…
blah, blah, blah.
If the guy hates Abraham Lincoln, you can imagine what he thinks of President Bush.
Homer Simpson discovered the meal between breakfast and brunch, and Boyle discovered the sweet spot between complete fabrication and one-quarter truth. If you have not already seen it, make sure you read Jim Dey’s Sunday column with the psychotic email exchange between White and Boyle.
John
John, I read the article. I'd love to see the complete email--I assume the article didn't contain all of it. From my persepctive, Abraham Lincoln is the finest citizen that this State ever produced, and Prof. Boyle is not fit to shine any shoes Abraham Lincoln wore. I completely understand the notion of free speech, but I'm trying to figure out how his email fits into the notion of academic freedom. How does this email advance any of his job assignments, if that is the correct term. Also, I'd like to know if Profl Boyle used the U of I email system--it seems to me that this email clearly constitutes his personal opinion, and has nothing to do with his job.
Frankly, how can the University chide students for expressing opinions about the Chief when its own professors act like this?
Champaign Dweller,
It's a close question whether it is cheaper to house Boyle at the U of I Law school or a mental institution. The main disadvantage is that his current digs allow him to be regularly mistaken as a academic, or as regular watchers of WCIA know, "The expert on the Palestinian conflct."
John
It's time for the U of I to tell Boyle, Kaufman and the rest of the so-called educated idiots that their personal opinions are just that!! PERSONAL, leave the U of I out of their rants! I'm sure the University's e-mail system was, and is still being used by this bunch to spread their garbage! If President White wanted to show some leadership now would be the time, These Professors want to write on blogs and in the newspapers about whatever they want, fine they have a constitutional right to. But they should be required by the U of I use a disclaimer that the opinions expressed are not those of the U of I ! Hey Francis , How about getting back to what your getting paid to do teach the law, not Make It!!!
Dear Gregg,
I share your outrage, but again, a little perspective. Do I like Boyle being a law professor? Not so much. Do I like not having to pay for his institutionalization? Yes. Do I want him teaching? Again, not so much.
John
Boyle threatened to file a complaint with the US Office of Civil Rights concerning 'Unofficial' a number of years ago because he found the event anti-Irish, anti-Catholic, and racist. He is also a leading member of the Hawaiian secessionist movement because he believes the control Washington has exerted on Hawaii for the last 100 plus years has been a violation of International Law. He is also very supportive of divestment from Israel, but is silent on terrorist group activities. He may have a little too much time on his hands.
Ghost,
You have hit upon the key difference between a mental institution and the law school. The institution could force him to take up macrame.
John
Insulting people is seldom productive.
what a complete whack-job...
some of the references (Kellog-Briand Pact???) Boyle uses are from way out in left field. and using the "Equal Protection" Clause in relation to the military? he does realize its 2007 (or 2003, depending on when he wrote that), and that there's no draft, right? That its an all-volunteer military?
at the end, he writes in memory of Congressman Henry B. Gonzalez; googling that name, you find a draft resolution from 1991, asking for the impeachment of Bush the Elder. Boyle copied and practically the entire resolution for his own "impeachment" resolution. good job, professor boyle; would you give a student of yours a passing grade for plagerizing another's work?
HG -- Go Southern, Beat Kansas!
Dear B,
Seldom, not never. Plus, liberals like to say that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. I guess it depends on whom you criticize; or, as they say, whose Gore is being oxed. But I will pass this on to Mr. Boyle.
John
"Insulting people is seldom productive."
I agree with the sentiment.
But it seems to have been very productive for the anti-Chief movement. I hope they're the exception rather than the rule.
I have definitely insulted Boyle, if he is capable of being insulted. Normally, I limit my insults to ideas. We don't have so much an idea here as the bad habit of saying the nastiest, biggest lie that comes to mind. Thus, we have a University populated by racists. We have as our most revered ex-President, a genocidal maniac. Our felonious ex-governor is, thanks to Boyle, a Nobel nominee. The Israelis are the sole cause of the Palestinian "problem." President Bush is establishing a police state.
Francis Boyle is deranged. It may be an insult, but it is the truth. One of the consequences of free speech is somebody else's free speech. If I call a spade a spade, maybe someone can use it to shovel up the bull***t.
John
I don't see JOhn's comments so much an insult, but rather as parody or satire to make his point. I thought people on the left thought conservatives were neanderthals who could not argue with finesse or humor. John, I guess your comments are just too nuanced. Now, if John had said that Prof. Boyle was a doo-doo head or something equally repulsive, I would understand the criticism.
we always expect full nuancing from mr. bram
Me and Gore have nuance up the wazoo.
John
Boyle threatened to file a complaint with the US Office of Civil Rights concerning 'Unofficial' a number of years ago because he found the event anti-Irish, anti-Catholic, and racist. He is also a leading member of the Hawaiian secessionist movement because he believes the control Washington has exerted on Hawaii for the last 100 plus years has been a violation of International Law. He is also very supportive of divestment from Israel, but is silent on terrorist group activities. He may have a little too much time on his hands.
What's wrong with the Hawaiian secessionist movement?
I agree with John, Boyle is deranged, His hero worship of former Governor George Ryan, a convicted Federal felon is just one indication that this guy ain't right. Ryan's a looser and so is Boyle. I think Ryan was looking for someone to help take the heat off, Enter the great Boyle, nominating Georgie for a Nobel Peace Prize. " That should throw the Feds off the scent". Nice try Francis! It's too bad Ryan will probably never spend a day in jail, But we can only hope Blagovich will and soon!!! Plagiarism in Boyle's eyes is OK because it helps his cause, but do not plagiarize any of his writings. His silence on terrorism tells me he thinks it's OK. As for Channel 3 using him as a so-called expert, well channel 3 is truly third in the local news pecking order. It's time the U of I sent Boyle and Kaufman packing, that is if they have the guts!, maybe the University of Colorado could hook these two up with Ward Churchill he's also a fan of the terrorist's. By the way I am a Republican and can't stand "The Great George Ryan" Convicted Felon!!!
It's time the U of I sent Boyle and Kaufman packing, that is if they have the guts!, maybe the University of Colorado could hook these two up with Ward Churchill he's also a fan of the terrorist's. By the way I am a Republican and ...
Talk about blah blah blah.
Wake us when the medication kicks in,
I don't mind Boyle as much as most here do. I've taken two of his classes. He's passionate, the problem is that his passion tends to override his reason.
He came of age during Vietnam and his perspective hasn't changed since. But he's pretty funny when he's wound up...
He told a story of an interview he did for BBC while he was doing the whole Bosnia thing. He was rambing on calling some British Lord by his first name. Eventually the interviewer called him on it "Professor Boyle, why won't you call Lord Bumblechuck Lord Bumblechuck with his proper title" (I don't remember the name), Francis says, "I'm Irish-American, we don't recognize British titles of nobility".
Well, I thought it was funny at least.
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Part-Time Pundit
John, passion does not excuse bad behavior. If that were the case, criminals would be lining up at the courthouse door to plead the defense of "passion". You may recall that the anti-chief crowd, including Prof. Boyle, presumably, did not accept the passion of Chief supporters as legitimate. Instead, we were all told to stop whining and move on. I recognize that Prof. Boyle is a recognized authority on all sorts of things, but that does not excuse this.
John,
If there isn't a Lord Bumblechuck, there should be.
John (deranged/impaired reason, potato/potato) Bramfeld
You are right John, Boyle is a nutcase and the U of I has been overrun by the radical left. However. the Chief is hardly any better than the usual dumbokrat krap. Chief Illiniwek was a PC warrior, designed to demonstrate the nobility of the native americans. Maybe eighty years ago he was the real the thing - war whooping, crazed and drunk - but he ended his time worthy of the American Indian Museum. Chief Illiniwek just fed the myth of the noble state of nature. Makes me want to puke. Before those Illini, Potowhatevers, and so on were Christianized, they led violent short lives. Now they lead longer, less violent lives, but of course don't appreciate it. I recommend you go see Gibson's Apocalypto to see the real chief in action.
Dear Flukey,
I think instead you may have fallen for PC ideas. Despite all the claims to the contrary by Chief supporters, the Chief was never about Indians, he was about the Illini. And I don't mean the extinct tribe, I mean the fans of the U of I sports programs. He was not designed to flatter Indians, he was designed to flatter the U of I. It is only the most hopeless case of pc-itis that holds all depictions of Indians, or anyone else, needs to conform to some kind of "accuracy" or "authenticity." Whether or not you liked the Chief, he was the chosen symbol of a group of Americans who, for better or worse, looked up to Indians and thought one would make a great mascot. Conversly, opposition to the Chief was not about racism, or lack of authenticity, but instead, resentment and control. They had the argument won as soon as they succeeded in getting Chief supporters on the defensive about whether or not he was a mascot and whether he was authentic. We can't even get authentic news, and people are worried about authentic fiction?
John
"Americans who ... looked up to Indians"? Now that's pathetic. Next you'll be sending me to a sweat lodge. Just name me one contribution these Indians have made that makes them worth looking up to. Sorry, the Irish already have alcoholism claimed and the Guineas have casino gambling, so it's got to be something else.
Flukey,
The question is not whether they deserve to be looked up to (on close examination, all our heroes have warts) but whether we are entitled to look up to them.. Tell me who you look up to and I guarantee we can find commentors to disparage them. Am I to understand you think the Chief should have gone because alcoholism is a problem for Indians? Surely you can dig a little deeper than that. Your obvious resentment is as much a problem to you as the anti-Chief's juvenile resentment. "Guineas"? Give me a break.
John
Maybe Boyle will get a Federal judgeship.
Oil Man,
That would certainly liven things up around here.
John
It would be a nice change of pace for the area and short term----less than 2 years.
"Americans who ... looked up to Indians"? Now that's pathetic. Next you'll be sending me to a sweat lodge. Just name me one contribution these Indians have made that makes them worth looking up to. Sorry, the Irish already have alcoholism claimed and the Guineas have casino gambling, so it's got to be something else.
That was really uncalled for.
""Americans who ... looked up to Indians"? Now that's pathetic. Next you'll be sending me to a sweat lodge. Just name me one contribution these Indians have made that makes them worth looking up to. Sorry, the Irish already have alcoholism claimed and the Guineas have casino gambling, so it's got to be something else. "
I would delete this, but I'm late to the game, and I know the commenters will destroy this kind of ignorance anyway.
FWIW, these may be the emails in question:
Listserv link
My god I'm glad the esteemed professor Boyle has ALL that free time to send out that garbage, Hey Francis, "can I call you Frank?" How about YOU getting back to WORK and doing what you are paid to do...teach law!! and send your B S emails on your own time, and on your own computer, that goes for Kaufman too ! What a couple of misfits these two are.
Those emails are eyeopeners all right. So the Chief is like Little Black Sambo. Actually I agree with Boyle there. Little Black Sambo is another perfect example of fake racism. Thanks for the link, Wayward.
I guess I shouldn't have been surprised to see a reference to Noam Chomsky. Wherever leftist intolerance hits a high point, there is Chomsky.
John
I find it amusing when people who cling to a caricature of a dancing Indian call others misfits.
Let me say Wenalway, I'm not clinging to anything. If your idea of funny is some over the top, over paid professor at the U of I spewing his personal ideology around the country at the expense of the taxpayers, Yes that is who pays his salary, then you are just as sorry as he is.
I had no idea how, well, unhinged Boyle was. Nor did I realize the poor quality of legal mind the University employs in its Law School faculty.
Boyle authored articles of impeachment in January 2003, because GWB had "rammed" the USA-PATRIOT Act through Congress, stuffed the Federal judiciary with judges of his choice, etc.
I guess he never got the gist of "Congress". It's this whole other branch of government that has to pass legislation like the USA-PATRIOT Act before the President can sign it. Signing a bill into law is literally and by definition never illegal, unless the person doing it is not the President, in which case there is no need to impeach him. Even the act of passing and signing a facially unconstitutional law cannot be a crime, although the sort of things an evil officeholder might do to get things passed might be.
Likewise, the President could appoint Gozer the Destuctor from the planet Nebulon to the Federal bench, but without Congressional approval, Gozer is just another illegal alien.
Demagoguery: not just for politicians any more.
See the Academy, where we start at pretension and never look back.
I find it amusing when HSQDs fail to see the hypocrisy of criticizing the spewing of personal ideology at the taxpayers' expense as they cling futilely to the caricature of a dancing Indian.
(Diagram that one! Oh-ho!)
Wow. This is a really racist and insulting thread. The kind of petty insults and vulgar bigotry you all are writing actually makes me like this Boyle character, whoever he is. At least he's not the one saying Native Americans are worthless and the Irish are drunks.
Yuck. Please crawl back under the rocks you came out from.
One anonymous yahoo says something racist and some other anonymous yahoo thinks that justifies calling everyone on the thread racist... yeah... makes perfect sense. If we assume you're both... nevermind. Your words speak for themselves.
And wenalway... as always you add nothing, and insult all. Congrats. Where DIScontent matters. I'm thinking of writing a script that adds "What a stupid post you dern HSQDs" - Wenalway... to every thread. It'd easily replace you and be far more amusing. I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort... why go through all that work when you do it for everbody already?
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