Patrick Thompson Acquitted

Patrick Thompson was just acquitted.  It didn't sound like the state's case was very strong, so I think this is the right verdict.  There's a story in the News-Gazette at http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2008/05/16/jury_acquits_thompson_of_sexual_abuse_after_an_hour .  Apparently, it didn't take the jury long to decide.

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Good work Bob and Ruth!!

I'm glad they won, because it seemed quite possible that Patrick was innocent, and it wouldn't have been fair for him to be convicted unless the state had proved its case. 

Some of Patrick's supporters believe that he was prosecuted because he videotaped the police, but I think it's more likely that bureaucracy was what moved the case along.  The police officer who filed the report might not have expected the case to go to trial, but it wasn't his decision to make.  It would have looked really bad if Rietz had dropped a sexual abuse case against a former client, and might have been considered unethical.  So she handed it over to the court so a special prosecutor could make the decision about whether to press charges, because that's what she was supposed to do.  If it had been assigned to someone like Dedman, maybe the case would have been judged too weak to prosecute.  But it ended up with Vujovich, who's apparently pretty zealous about sex crimes.  (In fact, some people might consider him too zealous at times - see http://www.illinipundit.com/2008/05/14/thompson-retrial#comment-91288 .)  Vujovich believed the accuser and decided to press charges, and the rest is history.

Just out of curiousity, is there any way for PT to recover his legal fees from the system, given that he was acquitted?

This case tended to highlight some of the peculiarities of "justice". Who do you believe and why? The state didn't "prove" he wasn't a police officer? I was struck by the fact (in Fridays paper) that Thompson's wife refused to testify for him in the first trial, and only agreed to testify at the very last minute in the second one. I've said it before: what jurors see in court is usually just a fraction of what took place in the real world. Every trial seems to be its own little Hollywood script where in the opening credits the screen goes to black and its says, "based on a true story", then almost nothing that happens after that is what really took place, but rather little vignettes of parts of what took place. 

Based on what I saw in the story (http://www.news-gazette.com/news/courts_crime_fire/2008/05/16/man_says_he_wasnt_in_womans_apartment), it looked like Thompson's wife hadn't been called in 2005, but it wasn't clear whether she had been willing to testify.  In the second trial, Thompson's attorney apparently thought it'd be a bad idea to put her on the stand if she hadn't testified in the first trial.  I wasn't sure if Maria Thompson not testifying the first time was that significant, since Thompson had represented himself and might not have done the best job.  Then again, the public probably will never know for sure what happened that day.

Judge Clem dismissing the home invasion charge because the prosecution hadn't proved that Thompson wasn't a police officer sounded strange.  I guessed that maybe the judge didn't think the case against the defendant was very good and didn't want him to get a long mandatory prison sentence if he was convicted.

I am not familiar with this case but I doubt if whether he was a police officer was in question, or was the unproven point.  Rather, that question is part of the definition of the crime of home invasion so that's how it's getting mixed up there.  I'm guessing there is some other aspect of that definition that was not proven.

Sec. 12‑11. Home Invasion.
    (a) A person who is not a peace officer acting in the line of duty commits home invasion when without authority he or she knowingly enters the dwelling place of another when he or she knows or has reason to know that one or more persons is present or he or she knowingly enters the dwelling place of another and remains in such dwelling place until he or she knows or has reason to know that one or more persons is present and
        (1) While armed with a dangerous weapon, other than

     a firearm, uses force or threatens the imminent use of force upon any person or persons within such dwelling place whether or not injury occurs, or         (2) Intentionally causes any injury, except as      provided in subsection (a)(5), to any person or persons within such dwelling place, or         (3) While armed with a firearm uses force or      threatens the imminent use of force upon any person or persons within such dwelling place whether or not injury occurs, or         (4) Uses force or threatens the imminent use of      force upon any person or persons within such dwelling place whether or not injury occurs and during the commission of the offense personally discharges a firearm, or         (5) Personally discharges a firearm that proximately      causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, permanent disfigurement, or death to another person within such dwelling place, or         (6) Commits, against any person or persons within      that dwelling place, a violation of Section 12‑13, 12‑14, 12‑14.1, 12‑15, or 12‑16 of the Criminal Code of 1961.     (b) It is an affirmative defense to a charge of home invasion that the accused who knowingly enters the dwelling place of another and remains in such dwelling place until he or she knows or has reason to know that one or more persons is present either immediately leaves such premises or surrenders to the person or persons lawfully present therein without either attempting to cause or causing serious bodily injury to any person present therein.

Actually Mark, you're wrong.  I know it sounds crazy, but Judge Clem ruled that the state had not proven that Patrick Thompson was not a police officer.  That was the reason why the home invasion charge was dismissed. 

I would agree with wayward's previous post in that Judge Clem didn't like the case so he was doing what he could to minimize or simply get it thrown out.  That's purely speculation on my part, but based on what I saw and have heard, that's how I feel about it.  I also agree with Dane in that what happens in the courtroom is rarely an accurate representation of what actually happened. 

 

 Whats next for Bob and Ruth?

I'm not an attorney, but the "peace officer exemption" to Sec. 12-11 seems unwarranted and problematic.

Unless an officer has a warrant giving legal right to access the premises of another while armed, I see no reason to exempt them.

This then brings to mind another case, that of former Urbana officer Kurt Hjort. Was one of the reasons Hjort was not criminally charged with home invasion during his  stalking and entering the home of a woman who he tracked down with the aid of his access to the METCAD computers, then allegedly sexually abused, was because it would have been difficult to sustain such a charge against him given the "peace officer exemption"? Perhaps, given that compared to the Thompson case there seemed to be significant physical evidence in the form of computer logs, etc, enough so that Hjort should have at least be required to defend himself in court in light of this clear abuse of his authority.

If so, that's just one more reason to require that a police officer have explicit legal authority before entering the home of anyone. We change laws all the time to prevent people from escaping punishment due to loopholes. Maybe this law needs to be changed, too?

 

If so, that's just one more reason to require that a police officer have explicit legal authority before entering the home of anyone.

 

Um, if you look at the law Mark posted, it does require legal authority. "...a peace officer acting in the line of duty commits home invasion when without authority..." There are situations where a cop can legally enter a residence without a warrant. In pursuit of a suspect, to make a welfare check (or whatever the technical term is), if they think a person is in imminent danger, etc.

Good eyes, Narc.  It'll do nothing to stop them, though.  It's been said over and over again and that specific group chooses to simply gloss over it that the Hjort case had nothing to do with the lack or abundance of physical evidence.  It was turned over to the special prosecutor and he came to the conclusion that the alleged victim in that case was not believable.

Good eyes, Narc.  It'll do nothing to stop them, though.  It's been said over and over again and that specific group chooses to simply gloss over it that the Hjort case had nothing to do with the lack or abundance of physical evidence.  It was turned over to the special prosecutor and he came to the conclusion that the alleged victim in that case was not believable.

IIRC, James Dedman got the Hjort case.  For better or for worse, Vujovich seems to believe that if an alleged victim is willing to go through a trial, then s/he must be telling the truth.  In most cases, this is probably correct, but I don't think that it's impossible for someone to lie about a sex crime.

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Could this be  the first grievance for the Civilian Review Board?

The prosecuting attorney was quoted in the paper that he felt the case was weak.

Michael Fuerst             

 

Robert, in answer to your question, what is next? For me: sleep. Of course, there's always more work for justice, in and out of the legal system. I look forward to being a part of it. -Ruth Wyman

Mike, Where do you come up with this stuff?!? How is the CPRB going to do anything about this?

Let's be clear here regarding this discussion of guilt or innocent.  Thompson was found NOT GUILTY, he was not found innocent.  Is there a difference?  In Thompson's case, I agree that states case was not strong, and thus, not found to be beyond a reasonable doubt.  However, does that mean that the event did not occur? Not exactly.  Let's take a another case, say, possession of drugs.  In this case the fact are clear that the police found the drugs on the person, but if the search was improper or beyond the scope of a warrant, then the evidence is suppressed.  Leaving, of course ,a situation that a jury cannot find BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, to convict.  Leaving a not guilty verdict.  Now, were the drugs actually on the person, yes.  The defendant possessed the drugs.  Could Thompson have committed this act and been found not guilty because of sloppy police work or poor prosecution prep. or good defense work? Yes to all, but that does not mean that he did not committe the sexual abuse. No.  I believe that the case did not prove Thompson committed the act, but it did not prove that he didn't either.  And that is the wonderful difference in our justice system and other country's.  Thompson would have been stoned already in most country's four years ago.  Thank God for being born in the USA. 

Congratulations to Patrick, and well done to Bob and Ruth.

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Anonymous wrote:  Mike, Where do you come up with this stuff?!?

From an anonymous source

Michael Fuerst             

 

I'll beat this dead horse just a little bit more.  I actually saw the link on the IMC website to a bunch of 'interviews' that they did in front of the courthouse on the day of the acquittal (it's funny cuz it's just Dolinar standing there asking goofy questions, looking goofy, holding a goofy looking microphone).  But what caught my eye was the 'interview' with Urbana City Council member Danielle Chynoweth.  She actually appears to claim that the victim in this case was somehow pressured to continue on because of the police and the police were using her as a pawn to try to get Patrick Thompson.

Again, where does she come up with this stuff?  If the police were out to get Patrick Thompson, I imagine that they would have done much more to 'try to get' him.  If anything, they apparently didn't do much of an investigation at all. 

It boggles my mind that Chynoweth can keep getting re-elected. It's funny, almost.

 

Watch out for the low flying black helicopters, Danielle.....they're coming to get you.

I'll beat this dead horse just a little bit more.  I actually saw the link on the IMC website to a bunch of 'interviews' that they did in front of the courthouse on the day of the acquittal (it's funny cuz it's just Dolinar standing there asking goofy questions, looking goofy, holding a goofy looking microphone).  But what caught my eye was the 'interview' with Urbana City Council member Danielle Chynoweth.  She actually appears to claim that the victim in this case was somehow pressured to continue on because of the police and the police were using her as a pawn to try to get Patrick Thompson.

Again, where does she come up with this stuff?  If the police were out to get Patrick Thompson, I imagine that they would have done much more to 'try to get' him.  If anything, they apparently didn't do much of an investigation at all.

It's related to the eavesdropping charges Piland filed against Martell Miller and Patrick Thompson in 2004.  What happened was that Miller and Thompson decided to make a documentary about relations between the police and the black community, so they got a video camera and started filming.  It was an interesting idea, but the problem is that making watchable documentaries tends to involve expensive equipment, and lots of planning and training.  AFAIK, these guys had an 8mm camcorder, and apparently got lots of grainy footage of cops standing around with the kind of bad audio you get when you use the camcorder's built-in mike.  Nonetheless, Piland pressed eavesdropping charges against them.

The sexual abuse charges against Patrick were also filed in late summer 2004, and there didn't seem to be much evidence against him.  Some of his supporters were conviced that the police were retaliating against him because of the videotaping.  This seems unlikely, but I do wonder if there was a tendency to assume that Patrick was guilty because he was a black man who'd been in trouble before.

Yeah, the eavesdropping charges were clearly an attempt to demolish any tools that the public might have to hold civil servants accountable. They were nasty perversions of justice.

The assault charges' timing made many suspicious. I know far too little on the details of the case to comment with any insight.

 (720 ILCS 5/14‑2) (from Ch. 38, par. 14‑2)
    Sec. 14‑2. Elements of the offense; affirmative defense.
    (a) A person commits eavesdropping when he:

(1) Knowingly and intentionally uses an eavesdropping device for the purpose of hearing or recording all or any part of any conversation or intercepts, retains, or transcribes electronic communication unless he does so

    (A) with the consent of all of the parties to such conversation or electronic communication or

    (B) in accordance with Article 108A or Article 108B of the "Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963", approved August 14, 1963, as amended; or

(2) Manufactures, assembles, distributes, or possesses any electronic, mechanical, eavesdropping, or other device knowing that or having reason to know that the design of the device renders it primarily useful for the purpose of the surreptitious hearing or recording of oral conversations or the interception, retention, or transcription of electronic communications and the intended or actual use of the device is contrary to the provisions of this Article; or

(3) Uses or divulges, except as authorized by this Article or by Article 108A or 108B of the "Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963", approved August 14, 1963, as amended, any information which he knows or reasonably should know was obtained through the use of an eavesdropping device.

    (b) It is an affirmative defense to a charge brought under this Article relating to the interception of a privileged communication that the person charged:

    1. was a law enforcement officer acting pursuant to an order of interception, entered pursuant to Section 108A‑1 or 108B‑5 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963; and    

    2. at the time the communication was intercepted, the officer was unaware that the communication was privileged; and

    3. stopped the interception within a reasonable time after discovering that the communication was privileged; and

    4. did not disclose the contents of the communication.

 

 

Interestingly enough, the case numbers for the two cases are 04CF1571 for the home invasion and abuse case and 04CF1609 for the eavesdropping complaint. So, those who claim that the abuse case is in retaliation for the videotaping don't appear to have much of a leg to stand on, since the abuse case was charged first, about a week before the eavesdropping complaint. As to why the eavesdropping complaint was dismissed, perhaps Mr. Ratcliffe can tell us.

Interestingly enough, the case numbers for the two cases are 04CF1571 for the home invasion and abuse case and 04CF1609 for the eavesdropping complaint. So, those who claim that the abuse case is in retaliation for the videotaping don't appear to have much of a leg to stand on, since the abuse case was charged first, about a week before the eavesdropping complaint. As to why the eavesdropping complaint was dismissed, perhaps Mr. Ratcliffe can tell us.

When Rietz got elected state's attorney, she thought that the eavesdropping charges were stupid and dismissed them.  I talked with an Urbana cop, and he said that he didn't see anything wrong with people videotaping police on duty, though there might be some privacy issues for the other people involved.  I pulled up the charges, and it does look like the offense date for the eavesdropping (08/07/04) is earlier than the one for the sex abuse (8/24/04).

the video taping was far more likely to complicate the case of the person being arrested or held by police than to reveal wrong doing by the police. In this particular instance, it worked out, but it's not too far a reach to imagine times when a defendant would not want to be taped. just curious, why did rietz ask for a special prosecutor for the one case, but felt it was all right to drop the charges on the other without sending it to the special prosecutor.

the video taping was far more likely to complicate the case of the person being arrested or held by police than to reveal wrong doing by the police. In this particular instance, it worked out, but it's not too far a reach to imagine times when a defendant would not want to be taped. just curious, why did rietz ask for a special prosecutor for the one case, but felt it was all right to drop the charges on the other without sending it to the special prosecutor.

Yeah, I could imagine that arrestees and people talking to the police might not want to be taped, and I wonder if that was what Finney wanted to talk with them about.  AFAIK, Rietz thought that dropping the eavesdropping charges was the right thing to do, but she couldn't do that with the other charges.

I have a great idea, everyone call and write your state representative and senators and tell them to do away with the eavsdropping statute as-is.  Illinois is one of the few states that has "two party consent."  I would imagine that some of the more shady politicians were the driving force behind it.  Just a thought...

On May 20th, 2008 at 06:55 AM, xian said:

Yeah, the eavesdropping charges were clearly an attempt to demolish any tools that the public might have to hold civil servants accountable. They were nasty perversions of justice.

The assault charges' timing made many suspicious. I know far too little on the details of the case to comment with any insight.

 

You hit it right on the head... They  ( never one person, but they)  found some woman who made the whole thing up, who went through THREE trials all because  they  wanted to get back at Patrick.   If they wanted to get back at him, I think that they could have come up with something that did not involve some woman who apparently had no axe to grind against Patrick.

 

I see the black helicopters now... Oh wait, its orange and its the life flight from Carle....

Yeah, the eavesdropping charges were clearly an attempt to demolish any tools that the public might have to hold civil servants accountable. They were nasty perversions of justice.

 

BTW can I come to your school and videotape you at any time with or without your permisson.... Your a public servant right?

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Let's be clear here regarding this discussion of guilt or innocent.  Thompson was found NOT GUILTY, he was not found innocent.

That's because he's innocent until *proven* guilty. Incompetence of the prosecution or negligence by the police doesn't not mean anyone's presumption of innocence is lessened. You start out innocent. If they don't prove their case, you're *still* innocent....

As for the eavesdropping, most of the videotaping these guys did is in public. Unfortunately, you have no expectation of privacy in public. As soon as you step out your door, you can be photographed or videotaped or even watched. I say unfortunately because I don't really want to live in a society that allows cameras on every corner, but that's the world we live in. I think the *real* nail in the eavesdropping case for me was when these two caught on tape the Assistant State's Attorney---taping them. This issue with the eavesdropping law wasn't the video---it was the audio. If they had turned off the mike, they wouldn't have been breaking the law. Instead of simply telling them that, they arrested them. Not really the best way to resolve this, in my opinion. In addition, prosecution of this case means *technically* if you tape your kid's soccer game or graduation ceremony or a family picnic at the park, you could be violating this law. It's too vague.

I get that the legal system is inherently antagonistic (two sides proving or disproving a theory), but it doesn't have to be. And instead of wasting time and money trying to prosecute these guys, they simply could have sent them a letter or explained the law to them---like when you get a warning at a traffic stop. What's more effective time and money-wise?

BTW can I come to your school and videotape you at any time with or without your permisson.... Your a public servant right?

Sure. I get videotaped all of the time. Just as long as you are not using it for any nefarious purposes, and of course, you cannot tape the students without parental permission.

Obviously, you would have to have a proposal for why you are doing it as the adminstration would have some say in the matter.

Obviously, you would have to have a proposal for why you are doing it as the adminstration would have some say in the matter.

Well, that's not quite the same thing now, is it.

That's because he's innocent until *proven* guilty. Incompetence of the prosecution or negligence by the police doesn't not mean anyone's presumption of innocence is lessened. You start out innocent. If they don't prove their case, you're *still* innocent....

Yeah, I heard that the prosecutor was telling the jury not to take the lack of investigation out on the alleged victim, and I thought, "HUH?"

As for the eavesdropping, most of the videotaping these guys did is in public. Unfortunately, you have no expectation of privacy in public. As soon as you step out your door, you can be photographed or videotaped or even watched. I say unfortunately because I don't really want to live in a society that allows cameras on every corner, but that's the world we live in. I think the *real* nail in the eavesdropping case for me was when these two caught on tape the Assistant State's Attorney---taping them. This issue with the eavesdropping law wasn't the video---it was the audio. If they had turned off the mike, they wouldn't have been breaking the law.

Yup.  Illinois is an all-party consent state for recording conversations.  I thought that Dobson riding around with the police taping Thompson and Miller was a really dumb thing to do, but she apparently wasn't exactly known for her judgment.  *cough* Brady Smith *cough*

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Well, that's not quite the same thing now, is it.

True---I don't have to be finger-printed or have a criminal background check to stand outside my local convenience store where I *am* being taped (without audio) or walk down the street like Miller and Thompson were when they were taping. But, you *do* have to do both before they let you wander about a school. Even as a parent or relative, if you want to volunteer, submit your info and they'll let you know if you can come in.

Yup.  Illinois is an all-party consent state for recording conversations.  I thought that Dobson riding around with the police taping Thompson and Miller was a really dumb thing to do, but she apparently wasn't exactly known for her judgment.  *cough* Brady Smith *cough*

No kidding...hence the fingerprinting and criminal background checks. 

"...and it does look like the offense date for the eavesdropping (08/07/04) is earlier than the one for the sex abuse (8/24/04)."

The idea that there is no retaliation for videotaping police being disproved by the timing of the indictments is not necessarily a disproof of a conspiracy. The criminal home invasion charge against Thompson came one day after the indictment of Martel Miller. In the police reports filed against Miller, Officer Justus Clinton writes at length the fact that both Miller and Thompson were well known by name regarding their videotaping activities as early as July.  In the documentary, you see about 7 minutes of Urbana Police Officer Chris Darr demanding Thompson's I.D. and won't leave Thompson alone until he gets it. Thompson was known by police, and Dobson and Sgt. Griffet were very much interested in seeing the filming stopped.

As for the woman's consistency over the years to disprove a conspiracy, well, that assumes she was actually consistent and she has no history of this sort of false accusations before. In fact, her story changed repeatedly, and not just small details you might expect from trauma clouding memory. Her versions have huge discrepencies that an honest memory would not confuse later. You don't tell an officer an hour after the incident that you screamed as loud as you could and that's why the intruder left, and then come back and tell the jury two years later, "I'm not much of a yeller and I spoke as loud as I am speaking now." In the police report, Officer Hediger wrote four times about how loud she was to have alleged to have been screaming during her alleged attack. Was it Hediger making this up? The "victim" also reported to Hediger that Thomspon had been making sexual advances toward her twice before. That's what she testified to in the first trial. In the second trial, she told a jury she had never spoken to Thompson ever. In the report, she said she tried to flee. In the first trial, she said she tried to flee but was grabbed from behind. In the second and third trial, she never mentions trying to flee from her attacker. In the first trial, the accuser testified she returned to her ironing during the attack while her intruder had briefly let her go! Her story was all over the place, and there were witnesses both at her place of employment and her residence who were very dubious of her story. Why those who were either victimized by her stories and those who witnessed her history for untruthfulness never came forward have much to do with Champaign County being an intimidating place to testify against the state, and trial strategy. The population of Colorado Ave. in Urbana is one that has criminal histories and many people just don't want any more to do with the criminal justice system if they can avoid it.

As someone noted earlier, a jury trial is a show with narratives left outside the play, lest the theatre be disturbed to accomplish what the parties want to have happened. Marie Thompson was left out of the first trial, with Thompson representing himself. He said later he just didn't imagine they would really take it to trial. When they did, his strategy was simply, you don't have the evidence. In the second trial, Mrs. Thompson reacted to Harvey Welch's lack of a defense by personally writing the trial judge pleading with him to allow her to testify over the objection of the defense attorney. Her absence from the early proceedings should not be misconstrued to mean she was relunctant to testify on behalf of her husband. In fact, as Mr. Ratcliffe would attest, it was Thompson's wife who led the investigation into the accuser's past false allegations of others at her work site while Thompson sat in jail for four months on the original $250,000 bond.

Also, the News-Gazette reported as the trial progressed that the charge was a home invasion and a slight fondling. That's not what was written in the original police report. That version is much stronger in regards to the level of violence and why the no physical evidence simply made no sense to half of the first jury. In fact, the News-Gazette first reported the crime as an attempted rape.  Vujovich kept coaching the "victim" to lesson the amount of struggle contained in the police report and account for why there were no ear-witnesses when there should have been. The original charge was a 5 count indictment- with 2 Class X felonies. Had Thompson been convicted in the first trial, he could have been sentenced to 120 years. The state kept lessoning the crime to fit the lack of evidence.

The original police report taken an hour after the incident was much different and should have resulted in an investigation per the Urbana Police Department Directive. Patrol officers reporting a "crime of significance", which is clearly spelled out to include criminal sexual abuse,  is supposed to result in the shift commander, in this case Sgt. Joel Sanders, to notify the Criminal Investigations Section, a group of specially trained officers who are on stand-by to conduct preliminary and follow-up investigations. Patrol officers are to secure the crime scene from contamination, collect clothing in cases of sex crimes, and locate potential witnesses. The victims in sex crimes are to be offered  an examination from a SANE, i.e. Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner. None of this was done. Interestingly, Sgt. Joel Sanders who signed off on Officer Hediger's report, appears in Thompson's documentary made that summer. Sanders, it should be said, doesn't appear disturbed by the filming in the documentary.

Without confessions from Officer Hediger, Prosecutor Vujovich, and the accuser, we may never know what happened in this case against Thompson. Because of his documentary, his lawsuit over the malicious prosecution, the accuser's erratic history- there's plenty of reasons to suspect the worst of our government in this case, though we would prefer not to. Thankfully, the taxpayer's won't be wasting money on housing Thomspon in prison along with the expense of three jury trials. Hopefully, the police departments will learn to do honest investigations so as to protect the innocent and truely apprehend real perpetrators of sex crimes with real evidence.

It did seem like there were some inconsistencies in the alleged victim's testimony, and that bothered me.  I'd also heard that there had been some allegations against coworkers at a previous job, and hoped there would be more information about this.  The conspiracy idea is still hard to buy.  I got the impression that the special prosecutor was very zealous about sex crime cases and tended to assume that nobody would ever make false accusations about such a thing.  I think that it's unusual for people to fabricate stuff about sexual abuse or assault, but it's not impossible.

Going off on a tangent, I remembered that there was some discussion of the jury pool being disproportionately white.  It sounded like showing up for jury duty might be a hardship for low-income folks, since they often don't have jobs with good benefits.  So could an activist group (like CU Citizens) launch an initiative to assist low-income folks called for jury duty, maybe by providing child care, lunch, etc?  That might improve the diversity of the jury pool.

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The practice among women of making up accusations of sexual improprieties is not new and certainly not unusual.  The practice is ancient.  Sometimes there are clear motivations for the action of the women (revenge, power, control) and sometimes there is no apparent motivation whatsoever.

 

 

The practice among women of making up accusations of sexual improprieties is not new and certainly not unusual.

I don't believe that it's commonplace for people to lie about being sexually victimized.  I only said that it was not impossible.

On June 5th, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Anonymous (not verified) said:  "The reasons for not showing up are speculated to be the pittance paid for the tedious job of serving on a jury: $10 a day." and "Beckett was pushed by activist Aaron Ammons nearly a year ago on the radio to raise the jury pay, but we saw where Beckett's heart really lay, his beloved clock tower. It's doubtful he would put before the taxpayers a quarter cent tax hike for juries, like he has for the courthouse."

 

Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the jury pay was set by the state, not the individual counties....right?  I completely agree that $10 a day is a pittance, and should be raised.  I'm just not sure you can lay this one at Beckett's feet.  I'm not sure, though, so if someone knows, please speak up.

 

 

HG

Such a move would not favor the state, as African Americans have a far greater overall mistrust of the criminal justice system than the average white middle class person from the rural collar towns. If African-Americans did show up, and if the clerk did call their number (no guaranteee there), there remains the likely prospect that prosecutors, like Carslon, Lozar, and Harris, would use their preemptory challenges to disqualify them off the jury.

It's illegal to use peremptory challenges based solely on race, and each side only gets seven in a felony trial.

My own opinion is that the county should pay jurors the living wage. They've had this policy in place now for some time for county employees. Why not jurors?

Sounds like a reasonable idea.  I doubt that $10/day would even be enough to pay for childcare, and the county doesn't provide that for jurors with children.  Apparently the low pay is why jury summonses are not enforced.

It's illegal to use peremptory challenges based solely on race, and each side only gets seven in a felony trial.

Yes, but it has historically been a standard practice to challenge the non-white members of the pool.